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Post by dunky69 on Jul 22, 2014 16:33:21 GMT -5
Damn I really wanted to see lebron help wiggins and see how great they could be with two wings that are absolute animals. It could have been crazier than lebron and dwade when dwade was mostly healthy. I don't know if any of you guys read grantland, but they had a few guys from their website writing about it. I liked what Simmons had to say. The cavs have the leverage, why trade before the season. Wait til December or January to see what you have in wiggins and if anyone else has a better first or second deal than the cavs. Can't they talk lebron into waiting it out and playing a little chicken? They already have more pieces than they ever did in his first stint. If the twolves really think they can sign him back after getting an 8 seed, let them gamble. I think he's going to free agency unless he gets traded to the right team or something miraculous happens with the twolves season.
I can defintly see why they would do it. It just doesn't have to be done now. I think it's a win for everybody except wiggins. I don't think the weather will be a problem because he's Canadian. I actually think he'll be fine, it just sucks to go from starting with lebron to being thrown into the Wild West as the main piece. Quite a lot of pressure for that young man, but he's got the ability now we need to see how he will react.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 8:58:39 GMT -5
Welp, Cavs are definitely giving up Wiggins. I should not be this upset about the Cavs getting Love and LeBron in one offseason.
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Post by Mighty Mouse on Jul 23, 2014 9:39:21 GMT -5
Welp, Cavs are definitely giving up Wiggins. I should not be this upset about the Cavs getting Love and LeBron in one offseason. Are you sure the Bulls aren't going to swoop in and spoil save everything?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 9:46:19 GMT -5
Well the Wolves would be crazy to pick Butler/Gibson over Wiggins/Bennett/1st, if the Cavs are willing to part with him. I don't know if the Cavs will let KLove go to another team though...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 10:04:54 GMT -5
Welp, Cavs are definitely giving up Wiggins. I should not be this upset about the Cavs getting Love and LeBron in one offseason. Are you sure the Bulls aren't going to swoop in and spoil save everything? The Bulls offer was a smokescreen. Wasn't real.
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Post by Mighty Mouse on Jul 23, 2014 10:52:37 GMT -5
Are you sure the Bulls aren't going to swoop in and spoil save everything? The Bulls offer was a smokescreen. Wasn't real. I haven't seen that reported anywhere. What is your source? Not that I don't believe you, it would make sense for the Bulls and Wolves to fabricate an offer in order to increase what Cleveland has to pay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 13:10:14 GMT -5
The Bulls offer was a smokescreen. Wasn't real. I haven't seen that reported anywhere. What is your source? Not that I don't believe you, it would make sense for the Bulls and Wolves to fabricate an offer in order to increase what Cleveland has to pay. I was referring to the old Bulls offer. This new one... might be real. Not sure.
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Post by NAUHurdler on Jul 23, 2014 13:12:27 GMT -5
That price tag on Love is getting higher and higher. Cavs can thank the Bulls now for what will force them to give up even more.
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Post by Mighty Mouse on Jul 23, 2014 14:04:29 GMT -5
That price tag on Love is getting higher and higher. Cavs can thank the Bulls now for what will force them to give up even more. Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards Divison rivals. I wouldn't expect anything less. Good GM-ing in Chicago. The biggest surprises for me in this whole thing are: 1) Golden State being so stubborn about not trading Klay freakin' Thompson. Kevin Love >>> Klay Thompson 2) Cleveland being willing to give up Wiggins. 3) Minnesota being offered Wiggins and still shopping around. 4) Doug McDermott and Taj Gibson being a "competitive offer" compared to Wiggins, Bennett, and more picks. Is no one else in the league watching this and thinking they couldn't put together an offer?
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Post by NAUHurdler on Jul 23, 2014 14:42:54 GMT -5
I heard that Klay will be seeking max money too. That's amazing to me. No player has benefitted more by having Steph on the court with him than that man.
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Post by dunky69 on Jul 23, 2014 14:51:51 GMT -5
Steph benefits too. He gets another very good (maybe great) shooter who opens him up. Also klay plays d and always takes the better player on the opposing team.
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Post by Mighty Mouse on Jul 23, 2014 15:40:38 GMT -5
Anyone else remember when Cleveland thought JJ Hickson had "too much upside" to trade for Amare Stoudemire? This whole Klay Thompson situation feels a lot like that.
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Post by dunky69 on Jul 23, 2014 16:23:02 GMT -5
Except hickson didn't play extended minutes yet. Klay has shown he can ball with full minutes and in the playoffs. We already know he's a very good shooter ( maybe great soon), he plays d and understands how to play off the ball. I don't really feel it's close to that situation. I don't really remember people talking about hickson like a max player possibly, I just remember people thinking he would've perfect with lebron.
It is similar in that we know Kevin love is better right now just like amare was. They also want lee n Barnes n idk if it's worth tearing up your team in the west.
I think everybody should retract their bids n let him get to free agency. I just don't think the gs trade really makes them title contenders.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 1:43:53 GMT -5
Anyone else remember when Cleveland thought JJ Hickson had "too much upside" to trade for Amare Stoudemire? This whole Klay Thompson situation feels a lot like that. This narrative has been debunked numerous times. The Cavs were more than willing to give up Hickson for Amare, but Phoenix backed out. Steve Kerr even said as much himself (basically saying something to the effect of, "There's no way we were trading Amare for JJ freakin Hickson"), and yet people still insist that the Cavs refused to trade JJ for Amare... Anyway, deal is essentially done. Framework has been agreed to. Love was even in Cleveland the other day. It'll probably leak in the next few weeks.
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Post by Mighty Mouse on Jul 28, 2014 9:06:31 GMT -5
Anyone else remember when Cleveland thought JJ Hickson had "too much upside" to trade for Amare Stoudemire? This whole Klay Thompson situation feels a lot like that. This narrative has been debunked numerous times. The Cavs were more than willing to give up Hickson for Amare, but Phoenix backed out. Steve Kerr even said as much himself (basically saying something to the effect of, "There's no way we were trading Amare for JJ freakin Hickson"), and yet people still insist that the Cavs refused to trade JJ for Amare... Anyway, deal is essentially done. Framework has been agreed to. Love was even in Cleveland the other day. It'll probably leak in the next few weeks. I like that narrative because it plays in to my preconceptions that the Cleveland front office is incompetent. So I'm going to stick with it regardless, thank you.
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