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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 12:51:44 GMT -5
The following trade is announced:
Brooklyn Nets send:
Dwight Powell (PF/C) $5.00M (2020) *signing rights*
2020 Rookie 2nd picks #32 & #40
TOTAL TEAM SALARY BEFORE: $21.95m
TOTAL TEAM SALARY AFTER: $36.45M
Amsterdam Astronauts send:
Kemba Walker (PG) $14.5M (2023)
2020 Rookie 2nd Pick #37
Cash Obligation to Walker's Salary: $1.00m (2021) *this upcoming season*
TOTAL TEAM SALARY BEFORE: $52.125m
TOTAL TEAM SALARY AFTER: $37.625M
Amsterdam will pick-up option on Dwight Powell
Amsterdam approves. While Walker is a premium fantasy player, moving him allows me cap flexibility (I needed a salary dump). The additional 2 picks in the 2nd round will help rebuild this roster for the long-term. Powell is an up-n-coming PF who has potential to provide help along several scoring categories.
Many thanks Ryan for the help!
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Post by Hollywood Lakers on Nov 25, 2020 13:06:15 GMT -5
Didn’t you just trade 3 first rounders to get kemba???
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Post by Nets GM - Ryan on Nov 25, 2020 13:28:48 GMT -5
I approve - still transforming my roster to my liking. While I am not really all that much in favor of Kemba's salary, he is another piece that I can work to deal down the line.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 13:45:33 GMT -5
Didn’t you just trade 3 first rounders to get kemba??? Yes, I did. And those 3 picks didn't cost me a thing - just an opportunity. As i said in my approval when i made the trade: "Walker will be an integral part to the building blocks of my new team." - I didn't lie...i need the value of his contract to generate more players. I'm picking up Powell, and 2 second picks that will be rostered at $500k each, and I pocket the contract difference in usuable cap space. I've been actively shopping Vucevic, but while he is a Top-25 fantasy player, no one likes his contract. This is my only alternative in creating cap space for young players. I approach rebuild by hitting singles, and an occasional double. Triples and Homeruns will be 1-2 yrs later. Look at how i'm building my roster. Now I only have 2 players on multi-year contracts. |
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Post by Hollywood Lakers on Nov 25, 2020 13:56:57 GMT -5
So all in all you traded three 1sts a 2nd and $1M for three 2nds and Dwight Powell rights...
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Post by Oakland Oaks on Nov 25, 2020 13:59:31 GMT -5
Pretty low for Kemba, high salary or otherwise but 1-0
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Post by Hollywood Lakers on Nov 25, 2020 14:01:40 GMT -5
I am usually against vetoing trades even if they appear lopsided but if I were a mod I would probably vote against this given what you just traded for kemba. But I am not a mod so good luck to you
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Post by TrailDucker on Nov 25, 2020 14:48:28 GMT -5
Yeah I'm sorry I honestly don't understand this as well. What are you going to use said cap space on?
I said in my acceptance of the other trade that that was a steep price for Walker and now you dumping him for a very weak price. I try to not vote against trades as well but I just don't see how this is proper use of assets.
I'm going to think more on this but if you can't tell I'm leaning no...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 14:52:10 GMT -5
So all in all you traded three 1sts a 2nd and $1M for three 2nds and Dwight Powell rights... I got Walker on a 3 yrs contract (2023) at $14.5m - and gave away 2 1st (#6 & #18) which would've cost me $6.65m to use of the $20m i had available at the time. The 2021 1st rd pick could've cost me between $650k and $5.0m. But the reality is i didn't have to spend that money, someone else did. What i got in return was a $14.5m contract that I've flipped for a PF rental this season, two additional high 2nd round picks that will cost me $500k each, and i receive $7.00m in usable Cap space for a mid-level free agent or two. I'm not selling my future picks to pay for my current picks, and I've saved approx. $22m in cap space for next season while i develop a young roster. Mine is the long game...not the VERY SHORT game of scrambling to pay for my 1st Round picks.  |
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Post by Hollywood Lakers on Nov 25, 2020 15:34:14 GMT -5
I still don’t agree but I hate being the guy questioning a trade as long as there’s no collusion
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Post by San Diego Scorpions on Nov 25, 2020 15:42:48 GMT -5
The problem with this is you just proved Walker is worth 3 firsts and then you traded him for way beyond less than that. 2nd round picks are nothing. This trade should be vetoed for Tony’s sake, sorry Tony but if I were still a mod I’d veto it. Also this thread I don’t think is for discussion so my apologies
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Post by TrailDucker on Nov 25, 2020 16:19:21 GMT -5
You logic here contrdicts itself. maybe you got too excited and traded 3 firsts for Kemba and now you want to undo that but that doesn't mean I can accept trading a good fantasy player for such a low value. I also think you very much underestimating what $7 Million will get you in Free Agency. Trading three firsts for Kemba was harsh to me but trading 3 first for Dwight and 2 2nd rounders is just malpractice. I'm going to vote no but others have their opinions too.
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Post by Walker (Newark GM) on Nov 25, 2020 17:18:32 GMT -5
I rearly, if ever, veto trades. I'm really not a proponent of vetoing trades that owners have logic for. Amsterdam laid out his logic and although I personally don't agree w it, this is a fantasy league and everyone has their own strategy. I do not believe that free agency is the best way to build out a team, as players tend to go for a lot more than their market value. And, Kemba is worth muchhh more than Dwight Powell and 2 2nds.
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Post by Oakland Oaks on Nov 25, 2020 18:20:41 GMT -5
When I read all of the arguments above, and combine this with the fact that these are brand new owners who haven't exactly shown their longevity yet, I have to reconsider. While I don't retract votes or veto often getting this little for Kemba is too sad for Thanksgiving. Happy renegotiating!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 19:47:18 GMT -5
I am rescinding the offer and cancelling the trade. I have notified Brooklyn separately of my decision. I appreciate the honest input I received. While I have a different view of an “asset” and how to utilize it, I appreciate where y’all are coming from. Thanks for the consideration.
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